Sunday, 6 December 2009

A Message Of Support From Richard Dawkins

I am honoured that Richard Dawkins has responded to this blog and advocates so passionately and thoughtfully all that it stands for. This is his letter of support to Young Freethought.

I was delighted when Michael wrote to tell me about youngfreethought.com. So delighted that I hope you will overlook my age and allow me to explain why I think you are making such a valiant contribution to the cause of atheism, rationalism and secularism.

It is all too easy for debates about the role of religion to become inward-looking and academic, but it really does matter. Every day, all across the world, millions of our fellow humans are diminished by religion: religion that may force them to mutilate their children, cover their hair or faces, stay silent when they have so much more to say than those who suppress them, surrender control over their reproduction, donate money they cannot afford, obey and submit to their inferiors, deny reality, forgo education, close their minds, reject proper medical care, suffer needlessly, be burdened by pointless guilt, and live with the spectre of eternal torment. Every day, religion works to recruit more victims, among the young, the sick, the poor and dispossessed, the old: anyone who is weak and vulnerable is a legitimate target in religion’s eyes.

Of course, in any civilised society people must be free to believe whatever they want, but this doesn't mean those beliefs should be automatically shielded from challenge just because they are religious, and it certainly doesn't mean they should be enshrined in law or promulgated by the state. It doesn't mean that the state should abet churches and mosques and temples in trying to convert young minds in schools. It doesn't mean that young people should be divided from one another throughout their all-important school lives purely because their parents happen to follow different creeds. It doesn't mean we should allow our state broadcaster to perpetuate the myth that you need religion to be good. It doesn't mean that the minority of people who are actively religious should have privileged access to our lawmakers, their opinions sought out by policy makers, their bishops sit, as of right, in the House of Lords, their representatives automatically packing government committees or Royal Commissions with an ethical brief. It doesn't mean that our hard-pressed NHS should squander money paying chaplains out of its already over-stretched budgets. It doesn't mean that schools should be obliged to force pupils into daily acts of worship.

Every major battle for the advancement of human rights has been won in the teeth of fierce religious opposition: whether it's the abolition of slavery, equality for women or gays, freedom of speech, the abolition of the blasphemy law, the right of a woman to control her own fertility, or the right of the terminally ill to choose to end their suffering with dignity and medical assistance.

So, this really matters – in the real world and not just in internet chatrooms. Of course we must leave people in peace to practise religion if they so choose. But the rest of us must be left in peace to live our lives without it. The religious want more and more influence over government policy and, if they succeed, our society will be the poorer: less tolerant, less equal, less just, less educated, less rational. These issues should matter to all of us, but young people are the ones who should care most of all. You will inherit the societies that current governments leave behind. This is your future we are talking about, and the kind of society you want to live in.

If you want – and what decent person wouldn't? – to live with the best Enlightenment values, live free and tolerant and committed to knowledge and education and reason, then you must speak up and let your voices be heard.

This is why I welcome this blog so wholeheartedly. You will shape our society’s future, and it is exhilarating to see you preparing to do so.

All good wishes

Richard Dawkins

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31 comments:

Alessa Mendes said...

Gosh, I'm admittedly jealous. What an honour to have Richard Dawkins take the time to write such a letter.

Anonymous said...

Old guy sneaks in and whispers: great job Michael.

*Stumbles around trying to find the door, realizes he's not wearing his spectacles, can't find his spectacles... finds his spectacles, finds the door, and heads for the shuffleboard tournament*

jerseyjack21 said...

Richard Dawkins's letter to the youth of the world, and more specifically, this blog that I've newly found (thanks to Dawkins's twitter feed). I am happy to not be alone - as a young person - in my pursuit of enlightenment values. I too, am for what Dawkins described in a world of enlightenment values.

I blog at http://jacktrib.blogspot.com/

Follow me on twitter at jerseyjack21

Cody Nickels said...

Yes i agree with Alessa, it is definately an honor to have the great Richard Dawkins take the time to post this encouraging message for us. Without him and other Secularists such as Sam Harris and Christopher Hitchens, the non-theism movement would not be as progressive as it is.

Anonymous said...

Sorry but another oldie here for a minute just to say how inspiring your group is and long may it continue.

Kaffir Latte
Member of Richard Dawkins Forum.

Off back to my posse , the Geriatric Massive .
Stay Free

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Alistair Scott said...

Great blog you write, and very deserving of a comment from Richard Dawkins. Even though he is an oldie, he's done so much to promote the cause of atheism (He's the reason why I've come 'out') And your blog promotes it too.

I'm also an oldie and I believe it's particularly important to address younger people.

They should learn how to think, not what to think.

Good on you. Keep it up!

DM said...
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Michael Campbell said...

DM. You're not really helping your already dubious stance on this issue by simply 'singing' about it. Please start saying something constructive.

Jack Cowie said...

Well done Michael! This is a really great blog you've got here, I intend to find something I can contribute some time soon I hope. This letter from RD is a great achievement.

Robin said...

Richard and I are in the same age group and a hop, step and jump from the great void. He is so articulate, so sensible, so rational, and his arguments so compelling that anyone with a spark of intelligence must question the validity and authenticity of the various religions. Religion is the most divisive force in human society. The more people come to see it for what it is, the world will become a better place where we can live in harmony achieving the most we can as the truly remarkable beings we are.

hackenslash said...

Another old codger from the Dawkins forum. Good work.

Anonymous said...

viva reason and science!

Anonymous said...

Did the 9/11 zealots have too little faith or too much faith? We all know that answer. Only religions can spawn such insane atrocities

Tiberius said...

Professor Dawkins has done well in encouraging critical thinking and for people to question their origins and beliefs, but he seems to have overlooked one fundamental point. We may think the world we live in would be a better place if not for religious ideologies and institutions and their association with various persecutions and impact on human behaviour and thinking that have occurred through history.

Being angry and feeling betrayed by past injustices (those particularly involving religious institutions and ideologies) is understandable but it carries an interesting irony since we are the unique children of that past. Just consider the paradox of a person from a conquered land of mixed descent who endures a lifetime of apparently justified indignation reflecting over that part of his indigenous ancestry that were exploited and abused at the hands of invading foreigners who wiped out an ancient civilisation and imposed an alien ideology on the surviving generations. Like us he wonders how much better his world would have been if not for such acts of barbarism. Yet, he doesn’t think that if those very events had not taken place he would not exist, just as it could be argued we would not exist except for human history occurring precisely as it did. A different set of circumstances impacting on peoples’ movements and meetings around the globe would have resulted in a different gene mix with in turn different circumstances impacting on that mix, and so producing a different lot of descendents at every generation onwards. And modern science has only increased our awareness of the probability factors governing our individual existence. For instance, of the approximately 100-500 million sperm released in every act of human intercourse, with each individual sperm carrying a different genotype, what were the odds that the particular sperm with your genotype would be the successful one to win the race to fertilise the egg? Take this to the next step by multiplying these sperm by the number of successive generations that have occurred in your ancestry since the first humans walked the earth (recent estimates by scientists put this at around 6 million years ago). A different sperm being successful at any level in your lineage and the individual that is you could not now exist. As such we might be grateful for the past, with all its triumphs and tragedies, philosophies and institutions, individuals and events. We need to learn from the past and not be too hasty to want to do away with concepts that are part of our heritage, either because we don’t personally have the standard of proof we demand to satisfy our sense of what can be real or not or have suffered great disadvantage in our own lives as a result of the misuses of these concepts.

In other words, a past without religious institutions and ideologies, or one which didn’t result in the present set of these thinks, would’ve produced a different set of human beings now, and not us. What is your preference? Considering the astronomical odds against any of us existing as the individuals we are might prompt some to recall the old axiom “But for the grace of God go I” or others to say we were incredibly fortunate.

Tiberius

Veronique said...

Another oldie from RDdotnet to say, well done and good to see your blog up and running.

I have only just come across you as I read the article on RDdotnet that led me here.

Always a pleasure to link to another rational blog.

Aaron C said...

Tiberius,

So just because religion was part of the past that produced us, we should be grateful to it? Just because something was part of the past that produced us doesn't mean it's a good thing to continue.

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Michael Campbell said...

DM...

Perhaps unlike other atheists you have encountered, I'm willing to discuss the issue with you. Key word: discuss. When you are willing to begin, I will be happy to respond. Otherwise, I recommend finding a new hobby to scanning for blogs you disagree with and then spouting unsupported assertions.

orpheus said...

I'll add my voice to that of the other old farts from the Dawkins Forum. Well done, Michael! I'm so glad to see this blog. I know that at times it may be difficult, but what you're doing is really important.

-orpheus

Anonymous said...

Freedom of thought and expression is paramount.

Congratulations on this site, Dawkins, Hitchens, Harris, Condell and many many more have begun the great contest between reasoned thought and blind dogmatic belief in unsubstantiated nonsense.

Power to you in the new revolution of enlightenment. I wish you stamina and resolve for the endeavour.

-liberatedmind.

Anonymous said...

More words of advice from the wise Professor in a recent interview in which he warned against the dangers of parents lying to young children by allowing them to believe in such things as Santa Claus and other fairy tales.


http://www.abc.net.au/tv/elders/transcripts/s2757522.htm

Anonymous said...

It is such a delight to hear lucid, rational analyses of the harm religion causes throughout the world. Just knowing that there are other rational thinkers out there gives me hope. Let the light of reason shed by Mr. Dawkins and others continue to dispel religious darkness!

Michael Campbell said...

To all the 'old farts' at the RD forums - the place seemed so appealing I just had to check it out. I'm a proud newbie - MichaelJPC. Hope to see you there.

Anonymous said...

This is a great site. I only wish there had been something like this 50 years ago when I was being 'indoctrinated'.

I never really believed, but it took me 40 years to admit it to my self.

Do not let the control freaks push you into believing the myths.

Anonymous said...

the way some people talk about Richard Dawkins here, is how many people would talk about their God.

Anonymous said...

Hi, re- Ten Commandments.
Tell me which of these do you not do? Seems to me a fair base of how to live? Whats your view?

MJP Campbell said...

Try this post from the blog... http://www.youngfreethought.com/2010/02/10-commandments-worrying-moral-code.html

Anonymous said...

u haven't answered my question

MJP Campbell said...

Dear Anonymous,

I believe it does indeed answer your question, quite explicitly in fact. Commandments 1 to 4 and 10 I do not obey and my post quite clearly outlines why. Did you actually read it?

Best wishes
Michael

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